The same thing EXACTLY was done with the conflict in the Middle East which was fairly quickly manipulated from being against Israel or Zionism in general to good old fashioned "Jew hatred" (I refuse to use the term anti-Semitism because it has lost all meaning, mainly due to actions by Israel and the Zionist lobby).
Exact same recipe. Exact same outcome.
Rinse and repeat until the "unwashed masses" finally catch up to this ,the single oldest tactic in the globalist handbook!
Yeah absolutely agreed, there are also new pogroms against Jews in Amsterdam and elsewhere in Europe.
They use actions of Putin's and Netanyahu governments to manufacture neo Nazi hate against Russians and Jews like in old Hitler days, and the worst of it is that it works, at least in Europe.
Putin has been demonized just like Trump. The war is over Russian borders with the high risk of any one of those bioweapons labs right on Ukraine's borders close to Russia. NATA plays the world for fools. It is about sovereignty, it is about borders. The global deep state wants war with all their lives and breath. War is money. It is power. It is conquest. These rats have to be descendants of fallen angels, the Nephalim, then Rephaim. then the global Rothschilds, Popes, Soros, etc., etc.,etc.
shortly after the invasion of Ukraine, the company I work for told us to pull any products imported from Russia (we sold several kinds of seafood- wild caught salmon etc). I immediately thought it was bullshit as the companies and workers at the companies did not invade Ukraine. So it is wrong to lump everything from or about Russia into a decision by the government
Exactly. It's just pure racism dusguised as 'Ukrainian support'. How would it help Ukraine if you'd hurt ordinary Russian people? And Russia with its over thousand years old history and culture is much more than Putin anyway.
I'm in UK, but I haven't heard anything Russophobic myself. Many want an end to the war as well. It's only our very unpopular Govt who seem intent on war-mongering!
Dunno, maybe UK is more adequate with this regard. But in Finland, Sweden, Baltic States, Eastern Europe and even Germany Russophobia is all the rage now.
Alex, you are great. I have been trying to put words to exactly what you are saying. For 23 plus years of my life I have had a business and personal relationship with Russians on Kamchatka and occasionally Khabarovsk.
For me one of the sad realities is people like our manager who worked mostly with our American clientele has fallen on the hardest of times. Myself has had to retract retrench and reinvent myself. Because of the sanctions. And the racism.
Luckily I have had the same partner since 1999 and we are patient. I will be relaunching next summer with one of our programs. Hopefully Russia can come back into the fold of nations. The product of incredible wilderness and fishing is not available any where else on our planet. The Kamchatka Peninsula is simply the finest destination available. I will never give up.
Firstly, if you wanted to convince me that Russophobia is bad, you failed.
Russians have always been treated in Europe in roughly the same way and there were reasons for this.
Neither the economy, nor the Russian ethnic group, nor views, nor language have suffered from this. In European cities, airports are not destroyed in search of Russians, as the anti-Semites did in Makhachkala, Russians are not chased around Amsterdam and other European cities, as they are Jews.
Russian-made goods are boycotted not out of hatred for Russians, but because of the unwillingness to support the aggressor regime and the frankly low quality of some of them.
"Russian" stores exist all over the world, Russian theaters tour, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, "Swan Lake" are not banned anywhere.
Nothing except a "strong cooling of sympathies", which is well deserved.
I understand that you may be offended by some actions, but I don’t understand why you think that they have no basis.
First of all, there's NO single reason to treat ANY ethnic group worse than others because of the actions of their current government, and if it was 'always so', it's not an excuse.
Secondly, you're wrong. It's far worse for Russians that you're painting it. For example, visas for Russians are banned in Finland, Baltic States and Eastern Europe - that's a pure racist discrimination on nationality basis. How do visa bans for Russians harm Putin? No way, they harm regular Russian people.
Russian kids are bullied in European schools - I provided a link in this article to support it. You think bullying innocent kids for being Russian is 'nothing special'?
I'm silent on the fact that it became much harder for Russians to find job and study in Europe.
And yeah, there are cases of violence and vandalism against Russian people and properties in Europe too.
Again, you have not given any special arguments. Xenophobia, manifestations of nationalism are bad phenomena, but they are not even close to the xenophobia and nationalism of Russians. It was not Europe that caused this, but the Russian attitude towards Europe that formed this attitude. I think you read social networks where Russians speak about Europe, America, Israel, the Baltic countries (I do not take Ukraine as an example)
Yes, Russians travel to Finland and the Baltics. There is no visa ban, there is a stricter visa regime, which is not surprising.
I understand that everyone wants representatives of different nationalities to be treated equally, but nationalities should also be responsible for the image they create. This should work both ways.
I'm sorry but you're lying - there IS a full tourist visa ban for Russians in Finland (same as in Baltic countries), and Russian-Finnish border is completely locked in addition. You perhaps meant Russians who have Finnish citizenship and long-term residence permit - only they still can get there, and even they have to do it either via Baltic countries or Turkey, which is long, inconvenient and expensive.
Russian xenophobia and nationalism, wow. You know I'm a Russian and used to monitor Russian forums and platforms like vk. Com - there's no such thing. Russian people might be critical towards actions of American or European governments, but not people. They were critical towards Baltic States people too, true but I disagree it's Russians who started it. Baltic States people hated Russia and all the Russians by extension all the way since WWII projecting their indignation at Stalin's annexation on regular Russian people. So it's not Russians who started it.
It's European problem in the contrary - they fail to distinguish between people and governments and project their condemnation of government actions on innocent people. Same with Israel actually and to some extent even China.
Another moment is that Russia didn't implement ANY bans and restrictions on Europeans and Americans. It did not freeze their properties or money, didn't implement visa bans for them, etc. It's Russophobic European governments who bully Russians in all possible ways, in the contrary.
Yes, they travel through third countries, but in exceptional cases, travel through a direct border is possible. For example, Russians who have relatives in Latvia receive entry visas (there are several statuses). Automobile travel Russia - Lithuania, Russia - Latvia, Russia - Estonia operates. The St. Petersburg - Helsinki ferry operates, but tourists with a Schengen visa are no longer allowed. Yes, this is very undemocratic and intolerant, but it is not entirely ethical for Russians to be offended by this after the demonstrative transfer of tactical missiles and numerous violations of airspace. Any country values its own security more than the grievances of Russians. And I lived in the Baltics for many years, I know very well that the hatred of the indigenous peoples was a response to hatred. Although I would call it "hostility." And to be honest, no one makes claims against ethnic Russians for their origin. There are millions of ethnic Russians living all over the world (maybe less, but not much), but so far I have not heard of Russian pogroms and mass persecutions based on ethnicity.
I will give you a hint: the solution to the problem is not in the whole world, but in reconsidering the attitude towards this world.
Russians don't have a right to have grievances, for real? Is it Russian people who invaded Ukraine and 'moved tactical missiles' closer, or government? So you had just demonstrated what I just said - your failure to distinguish between innocent Russian people and actions of their undemocratic government.
Also, even in this case, 'moving missiles closer to St. Petersburg was a response to Finland and Sweden joining NATO, or you believe Russia should have left it without response? It's only Baltic States and Finland who are allowed to think of their safety, and Russia isn't? Every Russian move is always 'aggression', not defense against NATO? Seriously? Some would say even Ukrainian invasion was a Russian response to NATO encircling Russia and expanding straight to Russian border despite NATO promised to Gorbachev they won't expand beyond Eastern Germany, and broke their promise already in 90s.
Also, you're lying there's no open gate towards Russia in your countries. I used to live in Finland too and moved out of there exactly because of Finnish blatant Russophobia after the start of this war. But I still know Finnish language and monitor Finnish Internet - it's full of openly racist hate towards Russians, I even have screenshots. Cursing words and all kinds of verbal abuse are in full use.
You undermine those travel difficulties with such an ease! I wonder how would YOU have liked it if in order to visit your family you needed to spend much more time and money than usual and on the border treated like criminal when even your personal belongings can be take away from you. It's pure ugly fascism, I'm sorry. Old fascism flourishes in Eastern Europe and Baltic States and now Finland (4th Baltic state as I call it) and you don't give a shit because 'Putin's bad'. Shame on you.
I just take it easy. Yes, it's not easy for Russians now. They are looked at in a completely different way than before the attack on Ukraine. But let's be honest. Since about 2007-2010, Russians on social networks have been doing nothing but inventing enemies for themselves, telling each other how the terrible West is trying to attack them, inventing lies about Ukrainian nationalists, believing them themselves, justifying the attack on Georgia, the attack on Ukraine, participation in the war in Syria, absorbing Putin's propaganda and considering themselves special, possessing exclusive virtues. Yes, not all, but most. Yes, there are many Russians who do not share imperial ambitions, national superiority and denial of their mistakes. And they will have to choose one of the three. First: if it is hard for them to be Russian, let them be someone else, second: they can survive this difficult attitude and become free from prejudice, and third: throw away all identifications and be a normal person, then the attitude towards them will be appropriate regardless of nationality.
Such a great read, and so true ! The eurolibs (and I'm Western European myself) then cry about ukraine and boast about "democracy, diversity, equality, inclusion" but of course not when it comes to those evil Russians no no no, but then we welcome nazi ukranians and send them money. All because "Putin man bad" !!!
The same thing EXACTLY was done with the conflict in the Middle East which was fairly quickly manipulated from being against Israel or Zionism in general to good old fashioned "Jew hatred" (I refuse to use the term anti-Semitism because it has lost all meaning, mainly due to actions by Israel and the Zionist lobby).
Exact same recipe. Exact same outcome.
Rinse and repeat until the "unwashed masses" finally catch up to this ,the single oldest tactic in the globalist handbook!
Yeah absolutely agreed, there are also new pogroms against Jews in Amsterdam and elsewhere in Europe.
They use actions of Putin's and Netanyahu governments to manufacture neo Nazi hate against Russians and Jews like in old Hitler days, and the worst of it is that it works, at least in Europe.
Putin has been demonized just like Trump. The war is over Russian borders with the high risk of any one of those bioweapons labs right on Ukraine's borders close to Russia. NATA plays the world for fools. It is about sovereignty, it is about borders. The global deep state wants war with all their lives and breath. War is money. It is power. It is conquest. These rats have to be descendants of fallen angels, the Nephalim, then Rephaim. then the global Rothschilds, Popes, Soros, etc., etc.,etc.
NATO, not NATA. sorry.
It's alright, I got you still, and agree with you, and NATA sounded funnier.
shortly after the invasion of Ukraine, the company I work for told us to pull any products imported from Russia (we sold several kinds of seafood- wild caught salmon etc). I immediately thought it was bullshit as the companies and workers at the companies did not invade Ukraine. So it is wrong to lump everything from or about Russia into a decision by the government
Exactly. It's just pure racism dusguised as 'Ukrainian support'. How would it help Ukraine if you'd hurt ordinary Russian people? And Russia with its over thousand years old history and culture is much more than Putin anyway.
I hadn't realised that. How awful.
Yeah, because it happens mostly in Europe, not in America. So much for 'tolerant and civilized' European societies.
I'm in UK, but I haven't heard anything Russophobic myself. Many want an end to the war as well. It's only our very unpopular Govt who seem intent on war-mongering!
Dunno, maybe UK is more adequate with this regard. But in Finland, Sweden, Baltic States, Eastern Europe and even Germany Russophobia is all the rage now.
I'm really surprised.
Well, now you know.
Russians are super nice people if we ignore the killings and invasions.
They teamed up with Hitler pre Ww2, why don’t you discuss that?
It's Stalin teamed up with Hitler, not Russian people, you racist Russophobic moron.
And you beloved Ukrainians teamed up with Hitler afterwards.
Alex, you are great. I have been trying to put words to exactly what you are saying. For 23 plus years of my life I have had a business and personal relationship with Russians on Kamchatka and occasionally Khabarovsk.
For me one of the sad realities is people like our manager who worked mostly with our American clientele has fallen on the hardest of times. Myself has had to retract retrench and reinvent myself. Because of the sanctions. And the racism.
Thank you for being so succinct.
You're welcome. But is this business with Russians is dead by now?
Luckily I have had the same partner since 1999 and we are patient. I will be relaunching next summer with one of our programs. Hopefully Russia can come back into the fold of nations. The product of incredible wilderness and fishing is not available any where else on our planet. The Kamchatka Peninsula is simply the finest destination available. I will never give up.
Stalin , the leader of Russian teamed up with Hitler, fact. Eat shit loser and I hope Ukraine kills every one of you mongrel losers
So, you call to slaughter 145+ millions of innocent Russian people.
You're true genocidal neo Nazo monster. Fuck off, fascist scum.
What is wrong with you? This is the most insipid and idiotic reply I have perhaps ever read. You should be embarrassed.
What’s a “dictator”?
Stupid liberal troll stfu.
Shut up
Gi have some vodka and choke on your vomit
Firstly, if you wanted to convince me that Russophobia is bad, you failed.
Russians have always been treated in Europe in roughly the same way and there were reasons for this.
Neither the economy, nor the Russian ethnic group, nor views, nor language have suffered from this. In European cities, airports are not destroyed in search of Russians, as the anti-Semites did in Makhachkala, Russians are not chased around Amsterdam and other European cities, as they are Jews.
Russian-made goods are boycotted not out of hatred for Russians, but because of the unwillingness to support the aggressor regime and the frankly low quality of some of them.
"Russian" stores exist all over the world, Russian theaters tour, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, "Swan Lake" are not banned anywhere.
Nothing except a "strong cooling of sympathies", which is well deserved.
I understand that you may be offended by some actions, but I don’t understand why you think that they have no basis.
First of all, there's NO single reason to treat ANY ethnic group worse than others because of the actions of their current government, and if it was 'always so', it's not an excuse.
Secondly, you're wrong. It's far worse for Russians that you're painting it. For example, visas for Russians are banned in Finland, Baltic States and Eastern Europe - that's a pure racist discrimination on nationality basis. How do visa bans for Russians harm Putin? No way, they harm regular Russian people.
Russian kids are bullied in European schools - I provided a link in this article to support it. You think bullying innocent kids for being Russian is 'nothing special'?
I'm silent on the fact that it became much harder for Russians to find job and study in Europe.
And yeah, there are cases of violence and vandalism against Russian people and properties in Europe too.
Again, you have not given any special arguments. Xenophobia, manifestations of nationalism are bad phenomena, but they are not even close to the xenophobia and nationalism of Russians. It was not Europe that caused this, but the Russian attitude towards Europe that formed this attitude. I think you read social networks where Russians speak about Europe, America, Israel, the Baltic countries (I do not take Ukraine as an example)
Yes, Russians travel to Finland and the Baltics. There is no visa ban, there is a stricter visa regime, which is not surprising.
I understand that everyone wants representatives of different nationalities to be treated equally, but nationalities should also be responsible for the image they create. This should work both ways.
I'm sorry but you're lying - there IS a full tourist visa ban for Russians in Finland (same as in Baltic countries), and Russian-Finnish border is completely locked in addition. You perhaps meant Russians who have Finnish citizenship and long-term residence permit - only they still can get there, and even they have to do it either via Baltic countries or Turkey, which is long, inconvenient and expensive.
Russian xenophobia and nationalism, wow. You know I'm a Russian and used to monitor Russian forums and platforms like vk. Com - there's no such thing. Russian people might be critical towards actions of American or European governments, but not people. They were critical towards Baltic States people too, true but I disagree it's Russians who started it. Baltic States people hated Russia and all the Russians by extension all the way since WWII projecting their indignation at Stalin's annexation on regular Russian people. So it's not Russians who started it.
It's European problem in the contrary - they fail to distinguish between people and governments and project their condemnation of government actions on innocent people. Same with Israel actually and to some extent even China.
Another moment is that Russia didn't implement ANY bans and restrictions on Europeans and Americans. It did not freeze their properties or money, didn't implement visa bans for them, etc. It's Russophobic European governments who bully Russians in all possible ways, in the contrary.
Yes, they travel through third countries, but in exceptional cases, travel through a direct border is possible. For example, Russians who have relatives in Latvia receive entry visas (there are several statuses). Automobile travel Russia - Lithuania, Russia - Latvia, Russia - Estonia operates. The St. Petersburg - Helsinki ferry operates, but tourists with a Schengen visa are no longer allowed. Yes, this is very undemocratic and intolerant, but it is not entirely ethical for Russians to be offended by this after the demonstrative transfer of tactical missiles and numerous violations of airspace. Any country values its own security more than the grievances of Russians. And I lived in the Baltics for many years, I know very well that the hatred of the indigenous peoples was a response to hatred. Although I would call it "hostility." And to be honest, no one makes claims against ethnic Russians for their origin. There are millions of ethnic Russians living all over the world (maybe less, but not much), but so far I have not heard of Russian pogroms and mass persecutions based on ethnicity.
I will give you a hint: the solution to the problem is not in the whole world, but in reconsidering the attitude towards this world.
Russians don't have a right to have grievances, for real? Is it Russian people who invaded Ukraine and 'moved tactical missiles' closer, or government? So you had just demonstrated what I just said - your failure to distinguish between innocent Russian people and actions of their undemocratic government.
Also, even in this case, 'moving missiles closer to St. Petersburg was a response to Finland and Sweden joining NATO, or you believe Russia should have left it without response? It's only Baltic States and Finland who are allowed to think of their safety, and Russia isn't? Every Russian move is always 'aggression', not defense against NATO? Seriously? Some would say even Ukrainian invasion was a Russian response to NATO encircling Russia and expanding straight to Russian border despite NATO promised to Gorbachev they won't expand beyond Eastern Germany, and broke their promise already in 90s.
Also, you're lying there's no open gate towards Russia in your countries. I used to live in Finland too and moved out of there exactly because of Finnish blatant Russophobia after the start of this war. But I still know Finnish language and monitor Finnish Internet - it's full of openly racist hate towards Russians, I even have screenshots. Cursing words and all kinds of verbal abuse are in full use.
You undermine those travel difficulties with such an ease! I wonder how would YOU have liked it if in order to visit your family you needed to spend much more time and money than usual and on the border treated like criminal when even your personal belongings can be take away from you. It's pure ugly fascism, I'm sorry. Old fascism flourishes in Eastern Europe and Baltic States and now Finland (4th Baltic state as I call it) and you don't give a shit because 'Putin's bad'. Shame on you.
I just take it easy. Yes, it's not easy for Russians now. They are looked at in a completely different way than before the attack on Ukraine. But let's be honest. Since about 2007-2010, Russians on social networks have been doing nothing but inventing enemies for themselves, telling each other how the terrible West is trying to attack them, inventing lies about Ukrainian nationalists, believing them themselves, justifying the attack on Georgia, the attack on Ukraine, participation in the war in Syria, absorbing Putin's propaganda and considering themselves special, possessing exclusive virtues. Yes, not all, but most. Yes, there are many Russians who do not share imperial ambitions, national superiority and denial of their mistakes. And they will have to choose one of the three. First: if it is hard for them to be Russian, let them be someone else, second: they can survive this difficult attitude and become free from prejudice, and third: throw away all identifications and be a normal person, then the attitude towards them will be appropriate regardless of nationality.
Such a great read, and so true ! The eurolibs (and I'm Western European myself) then cry about ukraine and boast about "democracy, diversity, equality, inclusion" but of course not when it comes to those evil Russians no no no, but then we welcome nazi ukranians and send them money. All because "Putin man bad" !!!
Yeah, makes zero sense, and shows their selective empathy and fake tolerance.
It's all bs double standard
Yes honestly, make it make sense... Z