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Tony evans's avatar

Politicians love to divide us so we are distracted with the hate and not what's actually going on. The theft of tax dollars and betrayal of politicians with our tax dollars must play out and all be held accountable right or left. Things are rapidly changing and misdirection and emotions are rising. Who would not be in favor of less government and accountability of tax dollars. Please

Dont back the wrong horse. Liberty. And accountability and free speech are my main concerns.

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Alex Ileex Sub Stack's avatar

Thank you all for the great writeup

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John Martin's avatar

Perhaps we should abandon these labels altogether, and allow people to make up their minds on each separate issue, after actually doing some thinking!

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Corson Matthews's avatar

Yes.thats the proper way to indulge in something after some self restrospection and understanding.

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Michael Ginsburg's avatar

NAILED IT!!

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Alex Ilex's avatar

Thanks!

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Adam Amster's avatar

I totally agree.

I used to be a far leftist. I used to believe in the insanity of the woke.

Now, I'm just lost somewhere in the middle. I hate both sides. I hate politics. I think the us government is evil. Long live liberty and the first amendment

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Alex Ilex's avatar

Thanks and yeah I used to be classic liberal Left, now I'm considered conservative... But my views didn't change, the Left did.

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Adam Amster's avatar

oh yeah they did. absolutely unhinged authoritarians.

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Alex Ilex's avatar

Yeah, psychotic totalitarians I'd even say.

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Adam Amster's avatar

fax

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Alex Ileex Sub Stack's avatar

Thank you all for the great writeup

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Following his good work for long time he explain on how life changing investment business grows for the economy.

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Paul Jackson's avatar

Excellent post Alex. I’m old enough to remember when the left was decidedly anti war on both sides of the Atlantic and I would have included myself as a leftist. It’s curious, but I don’t see Trump as an ideologue at all and maybe he’s the catalyst we need to restore reason although it’s going to take more than four years. The effect Vance’s speech has had on the Europeans is both cathartic and hilarious. I hope to hear a lot more like this from the VP.

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Alex Ilex's avatar

Yeah I think Trump is a businessman, not ideologue, and he's rather the symbol of change and new MAGA movement than its prophet.

I absolutely applauded JD Vance speech at Munich, as a gay guy wanted to kiss him all over lol. He was spot on with every regard. Europe bus becoming increasingly totalitarian, warmongering and downright fascist with Russophobia and still pretends to be 'democratic'. In a paroxysm of warmongering Russophobia Europe wants to fight Russia 'until bitter end' but on American money. JD Vance put those warmongering leeches in their proper place, well done.

And yeah I used to be liberal Left before. Ironically I don't see my views changed that much (only perhaps a bit on abortion, I was more supportive of it before than now), but the Left had changed drastically. They don't represent anymore anything they themselves stood two decades ago apart from abortions again, and this was one of the reasons I changed my mind on abortions lol.

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John Ketchum's avatar

“Left” and “right” are ambiguous political words that change meaning with time and place. The left/right political spectrum misrepresents political views. E.g., politically opposed Milton Friedman and Adolph Hitler are often put on the right. Current liberal/progressive and conservative ideologies are logically inconsistent tribalist positions. See The Myth of Left and Right by Hyrum and Verlan Lewis or watch one of their YouTube videos.

The Nolan Chart better represents American political views by classifying them as liberal, conservative, libertarian, authoritarian, and centrist. Liberals are described as pro-civil liberties and anti-economic liberty, conservatives as anti-civil liberties and pro-economic liberty, libertarians as consistently pro-liberty, authoritarians as consistently anti-liberty, and centrists as inconsistent. The Nolan Chart is an oversimplification that is less accurate today than at its 1969 creation, and it applies only to American political views.

I created a political typology chart intended to include every possible political view except political nihilism. It's a square resembling some versions of the Political Compass. The square has a vertical line (y-axis) through its center from top to bottom, a horizontal line (x-axis) through its center from left to right, and a circle in the middle. The square has five equal-sized parts: the upper-left and right corners, the lower-left and right corners, and the central circle. The square's top half represents degrees of authoritarianism, with totalitarianism at the top. The bottom half represents degrees of libertarianism with anarchism at the bottom. The left half represents degrees of collectivism and the right half degrees of individualism. Totalitarian communism is at the top left corner. I know of no political system that would appear at or near the top right. Perhaps the closest one is the free market but authoritarian political system under the Chilean reign of Augusto Pinochet in the 1970s and 80s. At the chart's bottom left is anarcho-communism; at its bottom right is anarcho-capitalism.

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Alex Ilex's avatar

Thanks for your contribution, and yeah I agree with your assessment. Hitler was essentially socialist in his ideology, just with ethnic flavor.

Your chart reflects political reality better but I would have still added trust to institutions as defining factor now, conformity vs civil disobedience for example, or populism vs institutional oligarchy.

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Alex Ileex Sub Stack's avatar

Thank you all for the great writeup

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Following his good work for long time he explain on how life changing investment business grows for the economy.

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Mediocrates's avatar

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose; by any other name would smell as sweet." From "Romeo and Juliet". Shakespeare (1564–1616).

Basically, what it means is that what matters is what something is, not what it is called.

and from Matthew the Evangelist, died 68AD: Matthew 7:15-20; King James Version of the Bible: “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them."

What this means today is judge the credibility of politicians by the outcomes of their promises.

These lessons come from ancient references: there is much that we can learn from history.

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C brink's avatar

Ethical oversight and democratization of AI should be of utmost importance… it’s shaping policy, media, social division etc We need to organize as a neutral non political dialogue as to what is the most impactful decisions that will shape your outlined concerns….

If we don’t unite around this issue power will never be to the people, transparency is key. I’ll be posting about this extensively. A proper discussion and risk analysis needs to be made by academics and developers so we are not blinded by bias. I’m not saying it cannot be done and used properly, but everyday people need to have some insight or say in their future.

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Mediocrates's avatar

Why not establish Citizen's Assemblies that have authority to present consensus ideas that governance bodies are obliged to address?

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C brink's avatar

Indeed! This will affect more than just your career or pay cheque..if pulled off correctly, it would be a new golden age where the humanities and arts would be noble pursuits again… we need to move forward so we aren’t the creators of our own dystopian future

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Alex Ileex Sub Stack's avatar

Thank you all for the great writeup

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Following his good work for long time he explain on how life changing investment business grows for the economy.

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Alex Ileex Sub Stack's avatar

Thank you all for the great writeup

I connect all my subscribe to Gilbert

Following his good work for long time he explain on how life changing investment business grows for the economy.

𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐬𝐚𝐩𝐩 𝟣 𝟥𝟦𝟩𝟤𝟢𝟫𝟦𝟧𝟥𝟢

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Maurice St. Cloud's avatar

Yes. This is the Great Political Realignment historians will talk about in the future.

I myself switched from “left” to “right” in 2018, but my only change of opinion was on school choice (and I no longer pretend to be pro-choice).

The fact is my political and social views are all over the place, but I know my civilization will survive under the modern right. I’m not so sure that’s possible under the modern left.

And can we get rid of the antiquated idea of right and left on a line? Its stems from the French Revolution when the radicals sat on the left and the moderates sat on the right. Nowadays people put socialism and fascism on that scale, but they don’t belong there. Those are Central European ideas foreign to liberal democracy. If we have to use a line, we should have oligarchic at one end and populist at the other.

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Alex Ilex's avatar

I started to get suspicious in 2016 because of TDS and Brexit gaslighting but fully switched from the Left to right in 2020 on the background of COVID and BLM.

Absolutely agreed, this is the main point of my article! Left-right framework doesn't reflect current reality and maybe was alien to us to begin with as you pointed out.

Oligarchy vs populism does reflect reality much better indeed, thanks.

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Alex Ileex Sub Stack's avatar

Thank you all for the great writeup

I connect all my subscribe to Gilbert

Following his good work for long time he explain on how life changing investment business grows for the economy.

𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐬𝐚𝐩𝐩 𝟣 𝟥𝟦𝟩𝟤𝟢𝟫𝟦𝟧𝟥𝟢

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Stephanie Wilson's avatar

I am getting so sick of this freaking lie. Bush is not a warmongering ''neocon'' He ran on an entirely domestic agenda in 2000. The only warmongers are those trying to kill us! [Al Qeada & like terror groups, Russia, China & Iran]

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Alex Ilex's avatar

I'm sorry but I strongly disagree. Bush was a genocidal warmongering monster same as Obama, and 'war on terror' was 100% proved scam, excuse for money-laundering wars in the Middle East.

The fact that you're buying Russophobic and Sinophobic warmongering lies doesn't speak in your favor. You're spouting neocon lies and warmongering propaganda and as 100% pro peace and anti war person I can't ever agree with this shit.

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Mediocrates's avatar

Bush was an inept and incapable POTUS, unable to control the "back room war mongers and lie tellers".

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Stephanie Wilson's avatar

LOL.🤡

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Stephanie Wilson's avatar

what you just said is totally untrue. I'm sorry that you suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome.

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Alex Ilex's avatar

Sorry but it WAS proven. It's YOU who suffer from this syndrome and is unwilling to admit anything bad on YOUR side however fact-based. Blind loyalty to your side is wrong and harmful. You're no better than Woke then who are pathologically unable to admit any shit on their side however proven. Be better than them.

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Stephanie Wilson's avatar

I have no prob w/ honest criticism of Bush. Yours is a totally dishonest take. You are wrong.

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Alex Ilex's avatar

Again, it was proven that Bush 'war on terror' and his Iraq invasion was based on lies. Shall I share the documents proving it or what?

You can deny reality because of your political bias as much as you like but it exactly does equate you to the Woke. Also, your smug saying that 'I'm wrong' doesn't mskee such, you have no argument and no evidence.

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Stephanie Wilson's avatar

I’m not denying reality. You are.

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Alex Ileex Sub Stack's avatar

Thank you all for the great writeup

I connect all my subscribe to Gilbert

Following his good work for long time he explain on how life changing investment business grows for the economy.

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