This was an interesting read. I live in an area of the U.S. where there are a lot of Russian expats. Of the ones who have been willing to talk to me about it, their opinion of Putin has been... "hate" isn't quite the right word, but they are very disappointed in him. As they explain it, some of them thought he would become a great leader, but instead he's just a common tyrant. (My own opinion of him is that he seems to have a bizarre fetish about re-creating the Soviet Union, even though in his heart of hearts, he knows he doesn't have the means to do that.)
We in the U.S. tend to think of Russia as all-powerful. It's been interesting to see how Russia has been unable to act in Syria, presumably due to the resources that have been expended in Ukraine. I hear from various sources that although Russia has a lot of nuclear weapons, likely most of them (or the missiles they are mounted on) are non-functional at this point. The main thing that worries people in the U.S. about Russia is their nukes. (I guess the reverse is probably true too.)
So I've been thinking about what the parameters of a Trump-Putin peace deal might look like. From the U.S. perspective, I'm thinking that our main "want" (in addition to the end of the current war, obviously) would be Russian's agreeing to some sort of nuclear arms deal. The U.S. would not demand total elimination of Russia's nukes; besides the national-pride factor, I think Trump would recognize Russia's obvious need to protect its border with China. I'm thinking that Russia would in turn be able to keep at least some of the Ukrainian territory it has captured, have NATO recognize its claims in Crimea, and a "ratcheting" end to sanctions, in which sanctions are lifted in stages as Russia takes steps to remove troops and materiel from its western borders.
As much as we may dislike Putin here, realpolitik says that it is probably better to leave him in power, at least for the short term. For one thing, if he is overthrown, there is the very real possibility that whoever replaces him will be worse, not only for the West but for Russian citizens too. I hope a peace deal will include some provision where some of the sanctions lifting will be contingent on Putin abandoning his persecution of political opposition. Maybe a negotiated peace could include moving to free elections by, maybe, 2028 (I suspect it will take several years for an effective opposition party to form.)
I've known and worked with a lot of Russians, especially on the Shuttle-Mir program in the 1990s, when Russia seemed full of hope. I think it's a shame how things have turned out since then, and I hope Russia can get back to that someday soon.
Exactly! Actual Russian people do not love Putin, whether they're liberals or traditionalists. Only Americans ignorant of Russian reality love Putin based on 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' logical fallacy.
However, I do believe Putin is worse than just a tyrant and a murderer. I exposed him as a WEF agent all the way since 1992, and a traitor to Russia. So he does not want to restore USSR, that's a Western boogieman (if he did, he would have started much earlier and not from Ukraine but from post Soviet states in Middle Asia like Kazakhstan and Tajikistan of whom no one cares). Putin wants to destroy Russia at NATO secret orders, that's why he started this suicidal for Russia war. Trump peace is the only thing which could save Russia.
By the way Russian collapse wouldn't be good for US either - it will empower China and Islamists greatly. We should all aim to prevent it.
If (2) Economic Collapse happens - and I expect it to unless Putin and Zalensky both accept (1) Trump peace deal really really quickly, which I consider unlikely, and then once accepted sanctions are lifted equally swiftly - then (4) coup is likely to happen too followed by (5) internal Russia civil war and (6) takeover by the PRC of the bits it cares about i.e. Siberia and probably some kind of PRC supported puppet for the Western part of the country as well as independent nations in Checnya and Dagestan and a greater Ukraine and/or Georgia dominating the rest of the Caucases
I don't particularly want that, but I consider it to be the most likely outcome and it means that Putin will have managed to take a country that was doing fairly well and smash it to pieces.
Exactly, man, you're reading my mind! As a Russian I don't want it too, I don't want my homeland smashed, I simply don't see any other feasible alternative at this point apart from Trump peace deal, but it's not guaranteed as you also said, abd not urgently guaranteed.
Exactly about Putin! Russia and Russians were 100% better off before 2022 with every regard, now Putin brought the country to the verge of catastrophe, and retarded ignorant Putin's fans claim he 'protected Russia from NATO', really? Gosh, if that is 'protection', then no destruction needed, sigh.
But yeah, the extreme levels of ignorance and blindness of so many people never fail to astonish me. Most people are incapable of objective analysis and of observing actual facts abs evidence even. They just mindlessly recycle NATO or Putin's talking points abd ignore all the evidence and facts to the contrary. Beats me.
This all makes for very uncomfortable reading. As I understand it, a main part of Trump’s agenda is to expose the deep state and open the door to a more democratic America while closing the door to the surging illegal migration problem. It’s hard for anyone to know what the truth is anymore because there isn’t only one truth. I doubt any sane minded, free thinking person wanted the conflict in Ukraine no matter what nation they might be from. It’s utterly tragic! If we could respect each other’s values we’d probably find we all have more in common than we realise and be able to focus on the real global threat together which is Islamic extremism. Instead we have to tolerate the, who’s the biggest boy in the neighbourhood mentality which makes everybody insecure and quite frankly it’s pathetic and just flawed muscle flexing that nobody benefits from accept those with the biggest wallets and mouths! Sovereignty yes! Understanding yes! Respectful boundaries yes! Cut out the shit and listen and learn from each other. Put the past where it belongs and turn to the real threats and confront it together as allies…common ground and some goodwill might grow from that. Ideology has infiltrated all political standings and nations and there’s no doubt about that! There’s a revolution starting to gain momentum accross the western world where the people, good decent people are finally saying fuck this shit…our leaders can’t even defend their own people let alone go banging down doors in other countries where they don’t belong! It’s a horrible pill to swallow Alex when we find ourselves confronting the reality of the future, especially when none of it looks good for any of us! I know exactly what you mean when you mention the predicable and how unwilling people can be to take any personal responsibility for what is happening or indeed might or will happen.
Thanks for your long response again, Andy, and everything is okay, I didn't take your response as diminishing the importance of Ukrainian war.
Why was it an uncomfortable read for you, because of the dark nature of my predictions?
But actually this is what I'm afraid of - since Putin's a traitor to Russia and Western people don't really know what's going on in Russia and don't really care, he might be able to destroy Russia. So even if Western people could save themselves from globalism, Russia perhaps couldn't be saved...
Please do let me have your DM Alex, it’s great chatting to you about this and only demonstrates further that we all have more in common than we realise. What you describe sounds horrendous and the penalties in Russia are far more severe in Russia for decanting voices than over here. I’ll tell you more about the discussions in parliament regarding the Quran when I have a bit more time but right now I’ve got to nip off to work. Nice chatting as always my friend. Take care
Yes, I suppose it was the combination of probable outcomes you described that was uncomfortable but nonetheless important to read. In fact, I learn things from most of your posts and I completely identify with the sense of hopelessness mixed with anger within our own county’s.
I have to believe the west can save itself from globalism otherwise it’s game over for freedom of anything! A lot of British and American social media podcasters are doing the heavy lifting with their no bullshit conversations about what’s really going on behind the scenes. Cancel culture has tried to shut it down and demonise anyone who isn’t woke and compliant but the resilience of them and people like Musk is inspiring…to me anyway.
I remember at the beginning of the Ukraine war there seemed to be a fair few Russian social media users and influencers making good arguments against the war and that definitely broke through. The inevitable shutting down of social media on both sides seemed to happen and the propaganda bullshit played out through the mainstream media. I don’t think it’s that westerners don’t care about what it’s like in Russia, it’s more that we only have influence inside our own country’s as the electorate. As you said, there’s always going to be the weak minded lefties but actually people like you are humanising the conversation between all sides.
The news of the death of Navalny was a blow, he seemed like a good man but I don’t know enough about him to have a fully formed opinion. Marina Ovsyannikova’s protest on the news was incredibly brave and made a lot of people think and take notice. The Tucker Carlson/Putin interview broke the internet to the displeasure of the legacy media who tried to accuse Tucker of being a first class wanker for daring to talk to him. Who the fuck are they to tell us what to think! It’s all changing mate and people are forming their own opinions now.
I know Putin’s hold over Russia is wholly undemocratic and I’ve seen plenty of videos of the way the politsiya (I think that’s right) treat protesters!! They look like total fuckers to be honest. Our police force are a bunch of woke wet weekends who’ll do bugger all about the “protected characteristics” of migrants rampaging everywhere but will arrest you for a social media post! I shouldn’t swear so much but they’re a bunch of uneducated cunts. Enough said….
Is it impossible to get any kind of change in government inside Russia? It’s frustrating how difficult it is to enact meaningful change.
Actually, Andy, if you wish, you're welcome to my DM too and could ask more questions there too or just to get to know me better. I do really appreciate your comments and mostly agree with you. For example I agree with you that we should all rather unite against globalism and Islamism rather than fight over Ukraine. By the way Putin fills Russia with Muslims too, have you known? It's not widely reported on the West but there are over 21 millions of Muslims in Russia overall (mostly from post Soviet Middle Asia but recently from Afghanistan and Palestine too), over 4 millions in Moscow alone. Putin imports almost one million Muslims more into Russia each year.
You can't criticize Islam in Russia too - for example I was fined for 30 thousands rubles for condemning Crocus Hall terror attack as 'Islamic terrorism' because 'terror gas no religion' on Putin's Russia and I was even lucky because one young guy Ilya Zuravel was imprisoned for burning Quran and sent to Islamist Chechnya where its leader Kadyrov's own son was regularly beating him in prison..Monstrous. I think Islamic situation is as bad in Russia as in UK but it's NOT reported in the West, and it pisses me off.
Putin destroyed all civil society in Russia. He criminalized homosexuality and Russian brutal police raids Russian gay bars (despite they're closed spaces, not promoting anything, for children, and there are no openly gay bars on Russia anyway). He murders his political opponents like Navalny (who I believe was genuine but very naive and trusted the West in vain) and Prigozhin (who I believe had seen through Putin's treason and hence rebelled). He arrests anyone for criticizing him. Western conservatives who love Putin must be out of their mind indeed.
You're right about propaganda wall. Putin banned FB on Russia, and European countries banned visas for Russians (which I believe is racist Russophobic discrimination) so it's harder for Russians and Westerners to communicate. I'm doing pretty hard and very important job of sharing actual Russian perspective (as opposed to Z Putin's propaganda) with Western people.
As for your last question, Putin broke Russian opposition and civil society, people are scattered and scared, both of Putin and of NATO, and can't do shit.
The only way to get rid of Putin - a military coup as I described. The military are the only one who have capacity to do it. But they need to see Putin's treason first. If they will have proofs of it, and they will of Russian economy collapses, NATO bombs Russia and Putin does nothing, then Putin's days are numbered.
I sincerely hope you're right but not sure. The point is Putin already bluffed with his nuclear threats many times, his countless red lines were crossed by NATO and Ukraind, abd he still did nothing. Will he do anything if NATO bombed Russia? Not sure.
I'm completely disappointed with Putin and don't see any hope for Russia while he's on charge. Trump is a better hope for Russia than Putin, however ironic and counterintuitive it sounds.
Putin tried to take Ukraine on the cheap. He was lied to by his minions and he is still paying the price. Frankly, I do not think Putin will jerk a knot in his own tail and do teh right thing. He will keep pushing to reach his imperial expansionist goals regardless of the price.
His central bank head has already told the Duma that the end is in sight. It seems to have made no difference to Putin. He has admitted there is an economic crisis, but he has made no changes. People are complaining they don't have the money to make it, but Putin keeps taking from them to fight his war.
Don't know what good it will do, but I'm praying for Russian and Ukrainian people swept up in the war for Putin/Zelensky bragging rights. May peace be negotiated quickly and bring this to a peaceful conclusion. Then life and rebuilding can resume.
Obviously by what I said, I don’t mean to diminish the impact this conflict has had on people…not at all. From my perspective in the Uk, most of the police figures in this country and most of Europe are too busy looking outside their country’s to notice what happening inside them! Hope that makes sense…
I do. But that doesn't cancel Putin's treason sadly. I actually believe Putin allowed Ukraine to kill Kirillov because I don't believe FSB didn't know of a planned assassination, yet did nothing to prevent it. Proves Putin's treason even further.
It's well too long to explain in one comment. If you were reading my stack for while, you already should have an inkling why. I exposed Putin WEF ties all the way since 1992, how Putin pushed all the WEF agenda in Russia from COVID and climate scams to mass Muslim immigration, AI, chatbots, digital IDs abd digital ruble.
Ukrainian war which Putin started was a catastrophe for Russia, absolute catastrophe. Russia now got 1300+ km of border with NATO via Finland, Kursk is invaded by Ukraine, Russia is bombed by Ukraine, Russian economy is collapsing with 10% inflation and 20% interest rates, over half millions of Russians are dead, both Nord Streams are blown up... Russia was ten thousand times better before the war, Putin is destroying Russia with his war. Don't believe what he's saying, he lies more often than he breathes. Look at his actions and their consequences instead.
Saving by destroying it, really? Do you really refuse to think and swallow all Putin's lies? Before his invasion into Ukraine Russia didn't have 1300+ km border with NATO via Finland, inflation rate of 10% and interest rate of 21%, wasn't bombed by Ukraine, and half millions of Russians were alive. Putin has a funny way of saving Russia destroying it, isn't it? Again, all the Russian patriots on Telegram agree that Russian situation now is catastrophic and ONLY American Putin's fans ignorant of Russian reality more than completely and swallowing Putin's propaganda recycled by Tucker Carlson and Scott Ritter think like you.
But what astonishes me is an immense blindfold you're wearing and your pathological ability to deny reality which contradicts your narrative just like Woke do. You ignore all the damning facts I provide and keep recycling Putin's propaganda. Sorry but you can't argue with facts, and ignorant opinions aren't valid either.
So? They can be wrong too, or lie. Or are you trying to play Woke 'expert' card that military generals opinion is more valid than mine? Won't pass.
Also all what I said are basic observations and actual facts, not opinions. Inflation and interest rate in Russia are sky high, Finland indeed joined NATO as a result of Putin's invasion, and now Ukraine invaded Kursk and bombs Russia with Western weaponry. All of it are proven facts not my opinion, and neither you nor military generals can't disagree with FACTS.
One more reality denying UkroNazi supporter is found. Sorry but your lies won't pass. Above Battalion and other Nazi military displaying swastikas in Ukraine are well-documented same as celebration of Nazi monster Stepan Bandera. Modern day Ukraine is 100% Nazi. Reality denying isn't greSt, stop embarrassing yourself.
P. S. And no one was excusing Putin here, if in your dumb binary mind condemning Nazi Ukrainr is siding with Putin, not everyone is as dumb as you, we condemn both Hitler and Stalin, both Nazi Ukraine and Putin.
Give me a massive break. You're simply denying reality. The Ukronazi thing is a creation of the idiot running things in the Kremlin. he defines a Nazi as anyone opposing him. Ukraine is not Nazi anymore than Russia is, but Russia is far, far closer. Putin himself has open neoNazis in his regime. Many Russia troops have been captured with Nazi tattoos.
You are one of those people that are something of a mix. You talk some sense about Russia, then deny reality in Ukraine. You are closer to truth than many coming out of Russia, but you still have a very long way to go.
Hope you're having a Merry Christmas, or will if you live in an Orthodox country.
Give me a break! I got attacked by Putin's fan today who believes I'm Ukrainian shill if I condemn Putin and now I got attacked by Ukrainian fan who believes I shill for Putin. It would have been funny if it wasn't as sad.
People really need to grow up, stop buying divisive warmongering propaganda and stop taking sides in WEF staged money-laundering wars.
Again, UkroNazi are fact, not Kremlin propaganda, it was proved countless times and well-documented. If you deny facts, you're either idiot or liar, no third option. It doesn't mean Putin is good but it's FACT. I could share you countless images and links proving it. If you keep denying facts, I have nothing more to say to you.
Now you're just getting funny. Perhaps it's because English is not your mother tongue, but I'm sure you speak English better than I do Russian, which would not be a very high wall to climb as my second language was German from my time living there.
UkroNazis are a Kremlin lie. It has not been proven, indeed, the very opposite has been proven. This is funny,
"If you deny facts, you're either idiot or liar, no third option."
You would do well to take it to heart.
By the by, Putin is a warmonger, and supporting Russia, like it or not, supports the head of state who has done nothing for Russia but bring war, death and destruction on his country.
Azov Battalion displaying swastikas was proved. Stepan Bandera celebrations in the Western Ukraine were proved too. It's not up to debate, it was proved. So if you keep denying it, you're losing any credibility, bye.
As to Bandera, one can ask, so what? Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist who used the Nazis, as he did others, to free Ukraine. That is not open to debate, but your position is because you never tell the full story.
Credibility is something you don't have. You tell the part of the story you want, and the result is deceitful. You say you don't like Putin, but much of what you say accrues to his benefit.
I stumbled on you by clicking someone who linked you. I won't be back. I get enough propaganda from Gateway Pundit and other sources claiming to conservative. Gateway Pundit, like you, tells the convenient part of the story, and never the full story. Farewell.
It is hard to know what is going on inside Russia, even if you are Russian. However, the sanctions regime has done enormous damage to the West, especially Europe and more especially Germany. Sometimes it seems that they were designed to do so by globalist trans-humanists. Sanctions are attritional war fought on an economic basis. In all such wars, it is always a question of who will collapse first. Normally, the stronger economic power (NATO) prevails but the West has so many self-inflicted wounds that have nothing to do with the Ukraine war that I rate the outcome as uncertain. I rate the Trump peace efforts as the best outcome for everyone.
It is fairly to possible to observe data and make logical conclusions out of it though. Sanctions might have damaged the West but they damaged Russia even greater. Monthly inflation nearing 10% and interest rate of 21% are dire facts.
Russia getting 1300+ km of border with NATO is also fact. Russia being bombed with American weapons and invaded by Ukraine in Kursk and Putin doing nothing in response is also a fact. Over half million of Russian men dead is fact too. Putin's treason to Russia abs allegiance to WWF globalists is obvious for anyone who has eyes and brains.
Not sure that half a million Russian dead is fact. I know of Putin's past connection with the WEF but he appears to have broken with them well before the war. BRICS is a weak reed but an alternate to the WEF.
He didn't break up with WEF. He was at WEF gathering as late as October of 2021 and EVEN NOW after the war Putin pushes digital IDs and digital ruble, AI and chat bots, climate scam and WHO pandemic treaty - ALL the WEF agenda and more - in Russia. Those are facts as well.
How could anyone think Putin's anti-WEF just because of Ukraine beats me especially if Ukrainian war drains and destroys Russia, so next year Russia might be mo more.
Side note - if Ukraine will be no more too, WEF and NATO wouldn't give a damn, they use Ukraine merely as a tool to destroy Russia. If Ukraine would get destroyed in the process too, no one would give a damn, Ukraine's just a disposable tool. So much for 'Ukraine support' in the West.
Well he is an authoritarian which explains a lot of those things. Not all authoritarians are WEF though. China for example, is globalist but would never grant primacy to the WEF.
Don't know where you are living but as to who collapses first, I will note that US, UK, Dutch, Polish, Japanese, Belgian governments have been turned out recently while France, Germany and Canada teeter. None of these seem to be related to the war but all happened. As to larger social collapse my trip to supermarket today wasn't encouraging.
As an addition to my original comment above, I will note that as a Russian you are naturally focused on what goes on in Russia. I am focused on what happens in the West and especially the US. And I am worried about the insane clown posse running the West.
I'm worried of what's going on in the West and US too, because it affects the whole world as well. But what's going on in Russia also might affect the West as we had seen with Ukraine. Everything is interconnected.
That's why people like me who could combine Western and Russian perspectives especially against propaganda wall both in Russia and in the West, are priceless.
Heh, I wish it was true. But two years ago it was unthinkable Biden would allow Ukraine to strike inside Russia with American rockets, and he just did, and Putin did nothing in response (his posing strike with Oreshnik which did zero damage doesn't count), his nuclear red line was one more bluff... And from that it's just one step to bombing Russia directly, and traitor Putin will no doubt allow that too...
Really. I've heard that cities and facilities are being decimated in Ukraine and they've lost so many young men. But the fact remains that it is Putin's duty to keep NATO from their border. Any decent country would do the same. Any country but America and England that is.
Man, are you even listening? Russia had just got 1300+ km of border with NATO via FINLAND (not Ukraine!), and Finland would have NEVER dared to join NATO if Putin didn't invade Ukraine. So is this how Putin prevented NATO from getting to Russian border? Finnish border is just 200 km away from St. Petersburg just in case, and Finland made an agreement with US to get American nukes on its land. So, American nukes just 200km from St. Petersburg, thanks to Putin. Will you finally open your eyes to FACTS instead of mindlessly recycling Putin's propaganda?
Gosh, NATO does NOT give a shit even if WHOLE Ukraine is destroyed and even nuked and every single Ukrainian is dead. As long as it could help NATO to destroy Russia, works for them. Ukraine is just a puppet and a tool, no one cares of it. So it does NOT matter how much this puppet lost. What matters is how much Russia lost while NATO lost nothing. Open your eyes. Putin's 100% traitor. Next year Russia might be no more thanks to him, and he then will run away and get his rewards from WEF for annihilation of his country.
You don't think the point of NATOs incursions were exactly that...to draw other European nations into war and it looks like you fell for it. It's like the EU introducing the Schengen Agreement so that European countries would be drawn into the chaos happening in Germany, Sweden, and coming to England
What? If Putin didn't invade Ukraine, Finland wouldn't have joined NATO, so Putin exactly helped NATO 100%, and he keeps helping it to destroy Russia.
Why do you think Putin can't win Ukraine for so long? Because WEF and NATO ordered him to prolong this war. If he really wanted, ge could have cut all the roads by which Western weaponry comes to Ukraine, and annihilated the whole Ukraine in few days. The fact he still didn't proves his treason too.
Putin was forced to attack because NATO encroached. NATO encroached specifically to draw Putin into attacking. I can't see what you don't understand. Ukraine is America's and the WEF money laundering warehouse. Its Blackrock's baby for future developments, in chemical, nuclear and virus warfare.
Man, no one is 'forced' to attack. It's just bullshit. You ALWAYS choose how do you respond. There are countless other ways how to respond from joining Donbas to Russia peacefully or switching Europe off his gas tap. Stop recycling Putin's propaganda, it's embarrassing.
Putin is a WEF puppet himself and knew Klaus Schwab all the way since 1992, so enough of BlackRock.
Again, Russia was million times better off before Putin's attack, didn't have American nukes 200km away from St. Petersburg, wasn't bombed, isolated and sanctioned and half millions of Russian men were alive.
If you really believe it is how Putin 'protected' and 'saved' Russia, you must be totally nuts.
Really. I have followed the NATO lies about not encroaching on Russian borders for a decade or more since it was first brought up during President Trump's campaign. It was NATO and Europe's way of derailing the President's foreign policy and the opportunity of growing NATO and the EUs sphere of influence.
This was an interesting read. I live in an area of the U.S. where there are a lot of Russian expats. Of the ones who have been willing to talk to me about it, their opinion of Putin has been... "hate" isn't quite the right word, but they are very disappointed in him. As they explain it, some of them thought he would become a great leader, but instead he's just a common tyrant. (My own opinion of him is that he seems to have a bizarre fetish about re-creating the Soviet Union, even though in his heart of hearts, he knows he doesn't have the means to do that.)
We in the U.S. tend to think of Russia as all-powerful. It's been interesting to see how Russia has been unable to act in Syria, presumably due to the resources that have been expended in Ukraine. I hear from various sources that although Russia has a lot of nuclear weapons, likely most of them (or the missiles they are mounted on) are non-functional at this point. The main thing that worries people in the U.S. about Russia is their nukes. (I guess the reverse is probably true too.)
So I've been thinking about what the parameters of a Trump-Putin peace deal might look like. From the U.S. perspective, I'm thinking that our main "want" (in addition to the end of the current war, obviously) would be Russian's agreeing to some sort of nuclear arms deal. The U.S. would not demand total elimination of Russia's nukes; besides the national-pride factor, I think Trump would recognize Russia's obvious need to protect its border with China. I'm thinking that Russia would in turn be able to keep at least some of the Ukrainian territory it has captured, have NATO recognize its claims in Crimea, and a "ratcheting" end to sanctions, in which sanctions are lifted in stages as Russia takes steps to remove troops and materiel from its western borders.
As much as we may dislike Putin here, realpolitik says that it is probably better to leave him in power, at least for the short term. For one thing, if he is overthrown, there is the very real possibility that whoever replaces him will be worse, not only for the West but for Russian citizens too. I hope a peace deal will include some provision where some of the sanctions lifting will be contingent on Putin abandoning his persecution of political opposition. Maybe a negotiated peace could include moving to free elections by, maybe, 2028 (I suspect it will take several years for an effective opposition party to form.)
I've known and worked with a lot of Russians, especially on the Shuttle-Mir program in the 1990s, when Russia seemed full of hope. I think it's a shame how things have turned out since then, and I hope Russia can get back to that someday soon.
Exactly! Actual Russian people do not love Putin, whether they're liberals or traditionalists. Only Americans ignorant of Russian reality love Putin based on 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' logical fallacy.
However, I do believe Putin is worse than just a tyrant and a murderer. I exposed him as a WEF agent all the way since 1992, and a traitor to Russia. So he does not want to restore USSR, that's a Western boogieman (if he did, he would have started much earlier and not from Ukraine but from post Soviet states in Middle Asia like Kazakhstan and Tajikistan of whom no one cares). Putin wants to destroy Russia at NATO secret orders, that's why he started this suicidal for Russia war. Trump peace is the only thing which could save Russia.
By the way Russian collapse wouldn't be good for US either - it will empower China and Islamists greatly. We should all aim to prevent it.
If (2) Economic Collapse happens - and I expect it to unless Putin and Zalensky both accept (1) Trump peace deal really really quickly, which I consider unlikely, and then once accepted sanctions are lifted equally swiftly - then (4) coup is likely to happen too followed by (5) internal Russia civil war and (6) takeover by the PRC of the bits it cares about i.e. Siberia and probably some kind of PRC supported puppet for the Western part of the country as well as independent nations in Checnya and Dagestan and a greater Ukraine and/or Georgia dominating the rest of the Caucases
I don't particularly want that, but I consider it to be the most likely outcome and it means that Putin will have managed to take a country that was doing fairly well and smash it to pieces.
Exactly, man, you're reading my mind! As a Russian I don't want it too, I don't want my homeland smashed, I simply don't see any other feasible alternative at this point apart from Trump peace deal, but it's not guaranteed as you also said, abd not urgently guaranteed.
Exactly about Putin! Russia and Russians were 100% better off before 2022 with every regard, now Putin brought the country to the verge of catastrophe, and retarded ignorant Putin's fans claim he 'protected Russia from NATO', really? Gosh, if that is 'protection', then no destruction needed, sigh.
But yeah, the extreme levels of ignorance and blindness of so many people never fail to astonish me. Most people are incapable of objective analysis and of observing actual facts abs evidence even. They just mindlessly recycle NATO or Putin's talking points abd ignore all the evidence and facts to the contrary. Beats me.
This all makes for very uncomfortable reading. As I understand it, a main part of Trump’s agenda is to expose the deep state and open the door to a more democratic America while closing the door to the surging illegal migration problem. It’s hard for anyone to know what the truth is anymore because there isn’t only one truth. I doubt any sane minded, free thinking person wanted the conflict in Ukraine no matter what nation they might be from. It’s utterly tragic! If we could respect each other’s values we’d probably find we all have more in common than we realise and be able to focus on the real global threat together which is Islamic extremism. Instead we have to tolerate the, who’s the biggest boy in the neighbourhood mentality which makes everybody insecure and quite frankly it’s pathetic and just flawed muscle flexing that nobody benefits from accept those with the biggest wallets and mouths! Sovereignty yes! Understanding yes! Respectful boundaries yes! Cut out the shit and listen and learn from each other. Put the past where it belongs and turn to the real threats and confront it together as allies…common ground and some goodwill might grow from that. Ideology has infiltrated all political standings and nations and there’s no doubt about that! There’s a revolution starting to gain momentum accross the western world where the people, good decent people are finally saying fuck this shit…our leaders can’t even defend their own people let alone go banging down doors in other countries where they don’t belong! It’s a horrible pill to swallow Alex when we find ourselves confronting the reality of the future, especially when none of it looks good for any of us! I know exactly what you mean when you mention the predicable and how unwilling people can be to take any personal responsibility for what is happening or indeed might or will happen.
Thanks for your long response again, Andy, and everything is okay, I didn't take your response as diminishing the importance of Ukrainian war.
Why was it an uncomfortable read for you, because of the dark nature of my predictions?
But actually this is what I'm afraid of - since Putin's a traitor to Russia and Western people don't really know what's going on in Russia and don't really care, he might be able to destroy Russia. So even if Western people could save themselves from globalism, Russia perhaps couldn't be saved...
Please do let me have your DM Alex, it’s great chatting to you about this and only demonstrates further that we all have more in common than we realise. What you describe sounds horrendous and the penalties in Russia are far more severe in Russia for decanting voices than over here. I’ll tell you more about the discussions in parliament regarding the Quran when I have a bit more time but right now I’ve got to nip off to work. Nice chatting as always my friend. Take care
Thanks to you too, have a nice day, and welcome to my DM again!
Embarrassing confession…..I’ve never DM’d before. How do I go about it? 😬
You made it sound almost like a first sex xD But alright I'd DM you first then😉
Or am I in it now?
Yes, I suppose it was the combination of probable outcomes you described that was uncomfortable but nonetheless important to read. In fact, I learn things from most of your posts and I completely identify with the sense of hopelessness mixed with anger within our own county’s.
I have to believe the west can save itself from globalism otherwise it’s game over for freedom of anything! A lot of British and American social media podcasters are doing the heavy lifting with their no bullshit conversations about what’s really going on behind the scenes. Cancel culture has tried to shut it down and demonise anyone who isn’t woke and compliant but the resilience of them and people like Musk is inspiring…to me anyway.
I remember at the beginning of the Ukraine war there seemed to be a fair few Russian social media users and influencers making good arguments against the war and that definitely broke through. The inevitable shutting down of social media on both sides seemed to happen and the propaganda bullshit played out through the mainstream media. I don’t think it’s that westerners don’t care about what it’s like in Russia, it’s more that we only have influence inside our own country’s as the electorate. As you said, there’s always going to be the weak minded lefties but actually people like you are humanising the conversation between all sides.
The news of the death of Navalny was a blow, he seemed like a good man but I don’t know enough about him to have a fully formed opinion. Marina Ovsyannikova’s protest on the news was incredibly brave and made a lot of people think and take notice. The Tucker Carlson/Putin interview broke the internet to the displeasure of the legacy media who tried to accuse Tucker of being a first class wanker for daring to talk to him. Who the fuck are they to tell us what to think! It’s all changing mate and people are forming their own opinions now.
I know Putin’s hold over Russia is wholly undemocratic and I’ve seen plenty of videos of the way the politsiya (I think that’s right) treat protesters!! They look like total fuckers to be honest. Our police force are a bunch of woke wet weekends who’ll do bugger all about the “protected characteristics” of migrants rampaging everywhere but will arrest you for a social media post! I shouldn’t swear so much but they’re a bunch of uneducated cunts. Enough said….
Is it impossible to get any kind of change in government inside Russia? It’s frustrating how difficult it is to enact meaningful change.
Actually, Andy, if you wish, you're welcome to my DM too and could ask more questions there too or just to get to know me better. I do really appreciate your comments and mostly agree with you. For example I agree with you that we should all rather unite against globalism and Islamism rather than fight over Ukraine. By the way Putin fills Russia with Muslims too, have you known? It's not widely reported on the West but there are over 21 millions of Muslims in Russia overall (mostly from post Soviet Middle Asia but recently from Afghanistan and Palestine too), over 4 millions in Moscow alone. Putin imports almost one million Muslims more into Russia each year.
You can't criticize Islam in Russia too - for example I was fined for 30 thousands rubles for condemning Crocus Hall terror attack as 'Islamic terrorism' because 'terror gas no religion' on Putin's Russia and I was even lucky because one young guy Ilya Zuravel was imprisoned for burning Quran and sent to Islamist Chechnya where its leader Kadyrov's own son was regularly beating him in prison..Monstrous. I think Islamic situation is as bad in Russia as in UK but it's NOT reported in the West, and it pisses me off.
Putin destroyed all civil society in Russia. He criminalized homosexuality and Russian brutal police raids Russian gay bars (despite they're closed spaces, not promoting anything, for children, and there are no openly gay bars on Russia anyway). He murders his political opponents like Navalny (who I believe was genuine but very naive and trusted the West in vain) and Prigozhin (who I believe had seen through Putin's treason and hence rebelled). He arrests anyone for criticizing him. Western conservatives who love Putin must be out of their mind indeed.
You're right about propaganda wall. Putin banned FB on Russia, and European countries banned visas for Russians (which I believe is racist Russophobic discrimination) so it's harder for Russians and Westerners to communicate. I'm doing pretty hard and very important job of sharing actual Russian perspective (as opposed to Z Putin's propaganda) with Western people.
As for your last question, Putin broke Russian opposition and civil society, people are scattered and scared, both of Putin and of NATO, and can't do shit.
The only way to get rid of Putin - a military coup as I described. The military are the only one who have capacity to do it. But they need to see Putin's treason first. If they will have proofs of it, and they will of Russian economy collapses, NATO bombs Russia and Putin does nothing, then Putin's days are numbered.
My gut feeling is there will be a deal as what Putin says a comprehensive deal and written agreement unlike Minsk agreement .
Nuclear war is a catastrophe which is nobody’s interest .
I sincerely hope you're right but not sure. The point is Putin already bluffed with his nuclear threats many times, his countless red lines were crossed by NATO and Ukraind, abd he still did nothing. Will he do anything if NATO bombed Russia? Not sure.
I'm completely disappointed with Putin and don't see any hope for Russia while he's on charge. Trump is a better hope for Russia than Putin, however ironic and counterintuitive it sounds.
Don’t not think Russia hasn’t used its full military capability in Ukraine yet ?
It didn't use even one fifth of it which proves Putin's treason too.
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I to date haven’t been able to join the dots as to why !!
He didn’t want to destroy Donbas ?
He thought he could just win by fighting using less than 1/4 of Russian defence ?
Was he keeping rest of forces in reserve in case war expanded to many fronts ?
Did he underestimate NATO’s commitment to supplying weapons to Ukraine ?
You know my answer to all those questions, right? One answers which explains it all, and more.
Putin tried to take Ukraine on the cheap. He was lied to by his minions and he is still paying the price. Frankly, I do not think Putin will jerk a knot in his own tail and do teh right thing. He will keep pushing to reach his imperial expansionist goals regardless of the price.
His central bank head has already told the Duma that the end is in sight. It seems to have made no difference to Putin. He has admitted there is an economic crisis, but he has made no changes. People are complaining they don't have the money to make it, but Putin keeps taking from them to fight his war.
?? I lost you
Putin being a traitor to Russia and secret WEF and NATO agent answers all your questions you just asked, explains all the contradictions and more.
Putin isn't acting as if he led God country to victory. He acts as he leads it into abyss.
Don't know what good it will do, but I'm praying for Russian and Ukrainian people swept up in the war for Putin/Zelensky bragging rights. May peace be negotiated quickly and bring this to a peaceful conclusion. Then life and rebuilding can resume.
Who knows, I'm not denying anything, prayers might help too. And if anyone needed prayers now, it's both Russian and Ukrainian people now, so thanks.
Obviously by what I said, I don’t mean to diminish the impact this conflict has had on people…not at all. From my perspective in the Uk, most of the police figures in this country and most of Europe are too busy looking outside their country’s to notice what happening inside them! Hope that makes sense…
Alex what about what Kirillov found re- biolabs & other nastiness going on & Nazis killing civillians since 2014 do you believe all that?
I do. But that doesn't cancel Putin's treason sadly. I actually believe Putin allowed Ukraine to kill Kirillov because I don't believe FSB didn't know of a planned assassination, yet did nothing to prevent it. Proves Putin's treason even further.
Wow.
Can you please explain why you, as a Russian, feel that Putin is a traitor to your people?
Very keen to hear you perspective on this.
Many thanks in advance.
It's well too long to explain in one comment. If you were reading my stack for while, you already should have an inkling why. I exposed Putin WEF ties all the way since 1992, how Putin pushed all the WEF agenda in Russia from COVID and climate scams to mass Muslim immigration, AI, chatbots, digital IDs abd digital ruble.
Ukrainian war which Putin started was a catastrophe for Russia, absolute catastrophe. Russia now got 1300+ km of border with NATO via Finland, Kursk is invaded by Ukraine, Russia is bombed by Ukraine, Russian economy is collapsing with 10% inflation and 20% interest rates, over half millions of Russians are dead, both Nord Streams are blown up... Russia was ten thousand times better before the war, Putin is destroying Russia with his war. Don't believe what he's saying, he lies more often than he breathes. Look at his actions and their consequences instead.
Isn't it more like that Putin is saving Russia from the incursions to NATO and the military/industrial complex
Saving by destroying it, really? Do you really refuse to think and swallow all Putin's lies? Before his invasion into Ukraine Russia didn't have 1300+ km border with NATO via Finland, inflation rate of 10% and interest rate of 21%, wasn't bombed by Ukraine, and half millions of Russians were alive. Putin has a funny way of saving Russia destroying it, isn't it? Again, all the Russian patriots on Telegram agree that Russian situation now is catastrophic and ONLY American Putin's fans ignorant of Russian reality more than completely and swallowing Putin's propaganda recycled by Tucker Carlson and Scott Ritter think like you.
But what astonishes me is an immense blindfold you're wearing and your pathological ability to deny reality which contradicts your narrative just like Woke do. You ignore all the damning facts I provide and keep recycling Putin's propaganda. Sorry but you can't argue with facts, and ignorant opinions aren't valid either.
There are military generals who disagree with you.
So? They can be wrong too, or lie. Or are you trying to play Woke 'expert' card that military generals opinion is more valid than mine? Won't pass.
Also all what I said are basic observations and actual facts, not opinions. Inflation and interest rate in Russia are sky high, Finland indeed joined NATO as a result of Putin's invasion, and now Ukraine invaded Kursk and bombs Russia with Western weaponry. All of it are proven facts not my opinion, and neither you nor military generals can't disagree with FACTS.
"same as Ukrainian Nazi military,"
That's absurd. Ukraine is not Nazi, and Russia is crawling with Nazis, with many of them in Putin's regime.
One more reality denying UkroNazi supporter is found. Sorry but your lies won't pass. Above Battalion and other Nazi military displaying swastikas in Ukraine are well-documented same as celebration of Nazi monster Stepan Bandera. Modern day Ukraine is 100% Nazi. Reality denying isn't greSt, stop embarrassing yourself.
P. S. And no one was excusing Putin here, if in your dumb binary mind condemning Nazi Ukrainr is siding with Putin, not everyone is as dumb as you, we condemn both Hitler and Stalin, both Nazi Ukraine and Putin.
Give me a massive break. You're simply denying reality. The Ukronazi thing is a creation of the idiot running things in the Kremlin. he defines a Nazi as anyone opposing him. Ukraine is not Nazi anymore than Russia is, but Russia is far, far closer. Putin himself has open neoNazis in his regime. Many Russia troops have been captured with Nazi tattoos.
You are one of those people that are something of a mix. You talk some sense about Russia, then deny reality in Ukraine. You are closer to truth than many coming out of Russia, but you still have a very long way to go.
Hope you're having a Merry Christmas, or will if you live in an Orthodox country.
Give me a break! I got attacked by Putin's fan today who believes I'm Ukrainian shill if I condemn Putin and now I got attacked by Ukrainian fan who believes I shill for Putin. It would have been funny if it wasn't as sad.
People really need to grow up, stop buying divisive warmongering propaganda and stop taking sides in WEF staged money-laundering wars.
Again, UkroNazi are fact, not Kremlin propaganda, it was proved countless times and well-documented. If you deny facts, you're either idiot or liar, no third option. It doesn't mean Putin is good but it's FACT. I could share you countless images and links proving it. If you keep denying facts, I have nothing more to say to you.
Now you're just getting funny. Perhaps it's because English is not your mother tongue, but I'm sure you speak English better than I do Russian, which would not be a very high wall to climb as my second language was German from my time living there.
UkroNazis are a Kremlin lie. It has not been proven, indeed, the very opposite has been proven. This is funny,
"If you deny facts, you're either idiot or liar, no third option."
You would do well to take it to heart.
By the by, Putin is a warmonger, and supporting Russia, like it or not, supports the head of state who has done nothing for Russia but bring war, death and destruction on his country.
Azov Battalion displaying swastikas was proved. Stepan Bandera celebrations in the Western Ukraine were proved too. It's not up to debate, it was proved. So if you keep denying it, you're losing any credibility, bye.
As to Bandera, one can ask, so what? Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist who used the Nazis, as he did others, to free Ukraine. That is not open to debate, but your position is because you never tell the full story.
Credibility is something you don't have. You tell the part of the story you want, and the result is deceitful. You say you don't like Putin, but much of what you say accrues to his benefit.
I stumbled on you by clicking someone who linked you. I won't be back. I get enough propaganda from Gateway Pundit and other sources claiming to conservative. Gateway Pundit, like you, tells the convenient part of the story, and never the full story. Farewell.
It is hard to know what is going on inside Russia, even if you are Russian. However, the sanctions regime has done enormous damage to the West, especially Europe and more especially Germany. Sometimes it seems that they were designed to do so by globalist trans-humanists. Sanctions are attritional war fought on an economic basis. In all such wars, it is always a question of who will collapse first. Normally, the stronger economic power (NATO) prevails but the West has so many self-inflicted wounds that have nothing to do with the Ukraine war that I rate the outcome as uncertain. I rate the Trump peace efforts as the best outcome for everyone.
It is fairly to possible to observe data and make logical conclusions out of it though. Sanctions might have damaged the West but they damaged Russia even greater. Monthly inflation nearing 10% and interest rate of 21% are dire facts.
Russia getting 1300+ km of border with NATO is also fact. Russia being bombed with American weapons and invaded by Ukraine in Kursk and Putin doing nothing in response is also a fact. Over half million of Russian men dead is fact too. Putin's treason to Russia abs allegiance to WWF globalists is obvious for anyone who has eyes and brains.
Not sure that half a million Russian dead is fact. I know of Putin's past connection with the WEF but he appears to have broken with them well before the war. BRICS is a weak reed but an alternate to the WEF.
He didn't break up with WEF. He was at WEF gathering as late as October of 2021 and EVEN NOW after the war Putin pushes digital IDs and digital ruble, AI and chat bots, climate scam and WHO pandemic treaty - ALL the WEF agenda and more - in Russia. Those are facts as well.
How could anyone think Putin's anti-WEF just because of Ukraine beats me especially if Ukrainian war drains and destroys Russia, so next year Russia might be mo more.
Side note - if Ukraine will be no more too, WEF and NATO wouldn't give a damn, they use Ukraine merely as a tool to destroy Russia. If Ukraine would get destroyed in the process too, no one would give a damn, Ukraine's just a disposable tool. So much for 'Ukraine support' in the West.
Well he is an authoritarian which explains a lot of those things. Not all authoritarians are WEF though. China for example, is globalist but would never grant primacy to the WEF.
Don't know where you are living but as to who collapses first, I will note that US, UK, Dutch, Polish, Japanese, Belgian governments have been turned out recently while France, Germany and Canada teeter. None of these seem to be related to the war but all happened. As to larger social collapse my trip to supermarket today wasn't encouraging.
As an addition to my original comment above, I will note that as a Russian you are naturally focused on what goes on in Russia. I am focused on what happens in the West and especially the US. And I am worried about the insane clown posse running the West.
I'm worried of what's going on in the West and US too, because it affects the whole world as well. But what's going on in Russia also might affect the West as we had seen with Ukraine. Everything is interconnected.
That's why people like me who could combine Western and Russian perspectives especially against propaganda wall both in Russia and in the West, are priceless.
You think we'd bomb a NUCLEAR power? I hope we're not that crazy/stupid.
Heh, I wish it was true. But two years ago it was unthinkable Biden would allow Ukraine to strike inside Russia with American rockets, and he just did, and Putin did nothing in response (his posing strike with Oreshnik which did zero damage doesn't count), his nuclear red line was one more bluff... And from that it's just one step to bombing Russia directly, and traitor Putin will no doubt allow that too...
Really. I've heard that cities and facilities are being decimated in Ukraine and they've lost so many young men. But the fact remains that it is Putin's duty to keep NATO from their border. Any decent country would do the same. Any country but America and England that is.
Man, are you even listening? Russia had just got 1300+ km of border with NATO via FINLAND (not Ukraine!), and Finland would have NEVER dared to join NATO if Putin didn't invade Ukraine. So is this how Putin prevented NATO from getting to Russian border? Finnish border is just 200 km away from St. Petersburg just in case, and Finland made an agreement with US to get American nukes on its land. So, American nukes just 200km from St. Petersburg, thanks to Putin. Will you finally open your eyes to FACTS instead of mindlessly recycling Putin's propaganda?
Gosh, NATO does NOT give a shit even if WHOLE Ukraine is destroyed and even nuked and every single Ukrainian is dead. As long as it could help NATO to destroy Russia, works for them. Ukraine is just a puppet and a tool, no one cares of it. So it does NOT matter how much this puppet lost. What matters is how much Russia lost while NATO lost nothing. Open your eyes. Putin's 100% traitor. Next year Russia might be no more thanks to him, and he then will run away and get his rewards from WEF for annihilation of his country.
You don't think the point of NATOs incursions were exactly that...to draw other European nations into war and it looks like you fell for it. It's like the EU introducing the Schengen Agreement so that European countries would be drawn into the chaos happening in Germany, Sweden, and coming to England
What? If Putin didn't invade Ukraine, Finland wouldn't have joined NATO, so Putin exactly helped NATO 100%, and he keeps helping it to destroy Russia.
Why do you think Putin can't win Ukraine for so long? Because WEF and NATO ordered him to prolong this war. If he really wanted, ge could have cut all the roads by which Western weaponry comes to Ukraine, and annihilated the whole Ukraine in few days. The fact he still didn't proves his treason too.
Putin was forced to attack because NATO encroached. NATO encroached specifically to draw Putin into attacking. I can't see what you don't understand. Ukraine is America's and the WEF money laundering warehouse. Its Blackrock's baby for future developments, in chemical, nuclear and virus warfare.
Man, no one is 'forced' to attack. It's just bullshit. You ALWAYS choose how do you respond. There are countless other ways how to respond from joining Donbas to Russia peacefully or switching Europe off his gas tap. Stop recycling Putin's propaganda, it's embarrassing.
Putin is a WEF puppet himself and knew Klaus Schwab all the way since 1992, so enough of BlackRock.
Again, Russia was million times better off before Putin's attack, didn't have American nukes 200km away from St. Petersburg, wasn't bombed, isolated and sanctioned and half millions of Russian men were alive.
If you really believe it is how Putin 'protected' and 'saved' Russia, you must be totally nuts.
Really. I have followed the NATO lies about not encroaching on Russian borders for a decade or more since it was first brought up during President Trump's campaign. It was NATO and Europe's way of derailing the President's foreign policy and the opportunity of growing NATO and the EUs sphere of influence.