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eric tollefson's avatar

In fact, they DO have wars...ants are, in fact, particularly warlike.....

Alex Ilex's avatar

Not really and ants are insects, collective mind. We're speaking of mammals mostly.

eric tollefson's avatar

Yet, that's how nature, our biological programming and logic all work...anything other than "women and children first" is societal suicide...as history has shown...

Alex Ilex's avatar

P. S. And it's not just biology. Animals don't have wars. Or work. It's all human diabolical invention to dispose of men.

Alex Ilex's avatar

Not really. Ancient Greece and China didn't put women and children first and didn't disappear. Greece was incorporated into Roman Empire and Chinese Empire existed until Communist mind virus from the West took over.

Biology first thinking is retarded and not human.

eric tollefson's avatar

And neither country has been relevant for over a millennium….

Alex Ilex's avatar

China is still relevant. And any country passes its own best moment anyways. Nothing lasts forever. All your warmongering empires had fallen. China is still there.

eric tollefson's avatar

That's because, in the grand biological scheme of things, men are pretty much expendable, certainly moreso than women or children...it's our JOB to do the nasty, dangerous stuff, so the women and children can get on with making our group healthy and prosperous...

Alex Ilex's avatar

And that's why I don't like purely biological analogies. We aren't just animals, we're humans, and we have much higher calling and purpose in life than biological one - e. g., reproduction and survival of the species.

We have art and culture. We have philosophy and spirituality. We have a goal to learn karmic lessons and to express our talents. As such, both men and women are equal and indeed just human. That's why biological thinking using men as cannon fodder or women as incubators is so toxic - it degrades us to the beast level and denigrates our human spirit. Gosh even our pets being in touch with humanity have a higher calling than 'traditional societies'.

And if you agree to be mere slave and ‘protector' of women and children, I have much higher spiritual aspirations

sean anderson's avatar

Well in a purely biological sense most men are superfluous. One man can inseminate 100 women but societies with disproportionate numbers of men to women (eg China) risk population collapse.

Studies of Y chromosomes of remains from prehistoric cultures reveal a shocking fact: at one time there were 17 women for every male alive. It seems that when one tribe conquered another all the males of the defeated tribe were executed by the conquering tribe so that only their (presumably shared) Y chromosomes survived. Must have been a very brutal age.

Alex Ilex's avatar

And that's why I don't like purely biological analogies. We aren't just animals, we're humans, and we have much higher calling and purpose in life than biological one - e. g., reproduction and survival of the species.

We have art and culture. We have philosophy and spirituality. We have a goal to learn karmic lessons and to express our talents. As such, both men and women are equal and indeed just human. That's why biological thinking using men as cannon fodder or women as incubators is so toxic - it degrades us to the beast level and denigrates our human spirit. Gosh even our pets being in touch with humanity have a higher calling than 'traditional societies'.